Now before people take the title of this post the wrong way i want you to read into it further and why i state that “Gay marriage does not concern me“.  Recently President Obama lit up many peoples hearts and hopes by stating that he “supports” Gay marriage- yet to me this is something that is said to simply please an audience and its surrounds- he knows the words are empty because unlike Australia where the law is federal and would apply allover- in the United States it is only supported as per state and each state is not subjected to a forced “Gay Marriage” allowance- hence Obama does not stop states that do not support gay marriage.

So he may claim he “supports” it day and night, he knows the end decision is made by the state and not himself, hence he could sing any song to win votes yet personally i am not buying it. Now as a heterosexual male i don’t feel an immense urge to support or condemn the situation around gay marriage. I am not a part of that community, though i must say that ANY group that feels discriminated against and is fighting for a right they believe to be theirs, then GO FOR GOLD!  Yet i am not in their position, i cannot relate to how they feel- full knowing i can and will marry.

Yet do not expect me to march in rallies, nor expect me to be extremely vocal about it either. I support you and your right to fight oppression and in that aspect i am entirely with you, yet the cause you fight for is a cause that i am not a part of- just as much as i don’t expect a gay man to rally against Islamophobia, i hope i am not expected to protest against homophobia- though i have to proclaim i am entirely against the irrational fear of ANY people whether it be based on their race, religion or sexual orientation.

Gay Marriage doesn’t concern me because i do not believe the government has any right to govern what people do with their own bodies and lives– i find the whole notion of the government controlling all aspects of our lives to be rather sickening. If i were to count the amount of unjust things our governments get away with i would be rallying every day, i just feel these people have no right to dictate how we live our lives- whether secular or religious, we own our own bodies and what you do with your body is none of my business.

Hence by me being active in the rights of gay marriage it becomes my business and i feel that i have no right to speak for, support or encourage gay marriage– though i definitely don’t speak against it either nor mistreat people for being homosexual. I feel the gay community SHOULD fight for their rights that they are passionate about, because they are fighting against the same government that sanctions many more injustices and discrimination- so i can urge the people WITHIN that community to do whatever they feel is right, and if gay marriage is something they believe they have a right to- then go for it, but i assure you that the fight is in David and Goliath terms.

What i dislike is how people assume that just because i don’t personally encourage or condone homosexuality that i am homophobic- that is entirely wrong. As cliche as it sounds i work with many, many wonderful people and their sexual orientation does not bother me, nor does it get in the way of respectful and friendly dialogue. I just dont think the “with or against us” culture is one that is healthy– for some topics we should be allowed to sit on the fence and observe, i am with the homosexuals in their fight against oppression yet the cause is none of my concern so i will sit and wait it out- the outcome is in the power of the homosexual community, not mine.

Peace, Salam Alaykum

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  1. irishberdie says:

    Obama made that statement the day before he was scheduled to come to my city, Seattle, for a fundraiser. I do not know if you are aware or not, but Seattle has a very large LGBT community (and a yearly Pride Parade). I don’t believe his statement because of this. It is my opinion that he only said it to get the support (votes) of the LGBT community.

    I personally do not support Obama. I did not vote for him (truth be told, I didn’t vote at all). This year will be the first time I feel like there is a person worth voting for, and that is for Dr. Ron Paul. Because of this, not only do I get accused of being racist, but I am also getting accused of being homophobic just because I won’t vote for a President who “supports” it.

    I take the “I’m Switzerland” stance on this issue. I am neither for, nor against it. I don’t treat people who are gay any differently than someone who is not. It is annoying that our President (who constantly undermines the US Constitution) would make a statment like that just before coming to a city like mine to raise money.

  2. Natalie says:

    Hey Dude!

    Good piece of writing, thank you for your honesty.

    I can see your point of view about Obama and the apparent “hidden” agenda of his statement. However, we all seem to think that politicians should have NO agenda. That is not politics. Politics is about having an agenda and promoting that agenda in all sorts of shapes and sizes, colours and sexual preferences. You’d be naïve to think we had a Che Guevara on our hands.

    I am not gay either, and I won’t be marching in the streets about legalising gay marriage any time soon, but I am going to be a parent one day and I don’t want to live in a world that chastises ANYONE, so it is my business to have at least an opinion and make the right choices to live in a better world and that starts with supporting politicians that encourage these ethics.

    I am glad there are public and powerful figures out there like Obama to publicise and bring light to this unjust law. I understand he is not enforcing all states to legalise gay marriage, but isn’t having his stance on the issue something rather than turning a blind eye and saying nothing?

    He is not just a president, but he’s a role model. To have a half black, US President say he is in support of Gay Marriage, it’s a pretty ballsy statement in itself. That will make the younger generations think about this issue, and hopefully change the stigma behind homosexuality. “If it’s okay with the President, it’s okay with me” type thing.

    It’s a start, in my eyes, and that is better than no statement at all.

    • ramio1983 says:

      Hey Nat a good reply! Yes i do believe what he did was beneficial to a degree because people will be quote mining him all the time now, and that quote can go a long way. It’s already been used to rub into Julia Gillards face for being a coward in not supporting gay marriage. So to a degree yeah good on him for doing what he did, yet the main skepticism from my angle is that his intent was more for his own sake than for the homosexuals of his nation because he had a very long time to say such a thing and the timing to me is a little off. I still think he is one of the better Presidents the USA has had- handsome and articulate but we cannot leave all of our hopes and dreams upon politicians- we know they could be disingenuous.

  3. JohnDurandal says:

    “he knows the words are empty because unlike Australia where the law is federal and would apply allover- in the United States it is only supported as per state and each state is not subjected to a forced “Gay Marriage” allowance- hence Obama does not stop states that do not support gay marriage.”

    Well this is false, as no state law can override federal law in the United States.

    I agree Obama won’t do anything for gay marriage, at least he isn’t right now, and in fact refuses to enforce anti discrimination laws regarding lgbt in federal employment, etc.

    “I am not a part of that community, ”

    So you’re selfish and only care about yourself?

    “don’t expect a gay man to rally against Islamophobia,”

    How about Peter Thatchel?

    “i do not believe the government has any right to govern what people do with their own bodies and lives-”

    Great, then you should be for abolishing marriage laws period, I can get behind that, alongside abolishing anti drug laws, anti public nudity codes, etc, all things we can agree should be abolished.

    “so i can urge the people WITHIN that community to do whatever they feel is right,”

    So can communities urge to remove muslims or ban certain parts of the islamic religion?

    “What i dislike is how people assume that just because i don’t personally encourage or condone homosexuality that i am homophobic- that is entirely wrong”

    How does one “encourage and condone” homosexuality?

    • ramio1983 says:

      “So you’re selfish and only care about yourself?”

      No, i care about what occurs around my life more than i care about things that don’t occur around my life, that is rational and normal. Yet i actively encourage people with things going on in their lives that they can try to change to go ahead and do it, none of that makes you selfish- the point being if you put outside influences outside of your own first then your own reality will be at a loss.

      “How about Peter Thatchel?”

      Great because oddly enough in small pockets there are Muslims that support homosexuals too.

      “So can communities urge to remove muslims or ban certain parts of the islamic religion?”

      I am not seeing the link here. What does “remove Muslims” even mean. Communities already are banning certain parts of the Islamic religion. I don’t think it is right. If people feel oppressed my support is with them to do something bout it, i am not a supporter of the oppressors as you’re alluding.

      “How does one “encourage and condone” homosexuality?”

      Walk in gay pride marches, post pro gay stickers and posters, sign petitions for gays- many many ways.

  4. JohnDurandal says:

    “No, i care about what occurs around my life more than i care about things that don’t occur around my life,”

    So then why will you bark at someone who doesn’t care about persecution or discrimination of muslims? Why do you get to make excuses for being for discrimination but others don’t?

    “Walk in gay pride marches, post pro gay stickers and posters, sign petitions for gays- many many ways.”

    How is someone in a gay pride march “encouraging and condoning” homosexuality though? What, is homosexuality some sort of club we can join at our whim all of a sudden? I must have missed that. Even if it was, what’s the problem with that?

    That’s like saying ethnic pride marches condone and encourage people to be in that ethnicity. Wait that could be a choice too…

    “I am not seeing the link here. What does “remove Muslims” even mean. Communities already are banning certain parts of the Islamic religion”

    So if a community decides to ban muslims from coming into their neighborhood, is that okay?

    “Communities already are banning certain parts of the Islamic religion.”

    Such as?

    • ramio1983 says:

      I don’t bark at one who does not “care” for the persecution of Muslims. I bark at those who expect me to care about the persecution of one group, when they do not care about the persecution of another and are angry that i don’t support “their cause” whilst they ignore the fact that they do not care about mine.

      How are communities already banning aspects of Islam? Banning Minarets (Switzerland), banning Burqas (France) , banning call to prayer (Israel), banning mosque construction (USA), banning Hijabi soccer players etc. etc.

  5. angloam says:

    So when I, a gay Jew, stood outside the neighborhood Muslim school on 9/12 because some horrible persons had threatened it with my violence and I and the rest of us took the view that “not in our damned neighborhood” — I was wasting my time and expecting support in return would be merely dreaming?

    (It was – we got a Muslim city councilman a few years ago and he refused to vote in favour of a resolution, entirely unbinding, supporting marriage equality, alone on the council.)

    You seem to completely disregard the notion of coalition-building and the unity of oppression. Or not; you just told a YouTuber that non-Muslim should get to know Islam, go to a mosque, etc. Do you advocate that homophobes get to know gay folks and how have you expressed that in the past?

    And if you’re so much for freedom why aren’t you fighting for freedom in Islamic countries? Do you hold them to the same standards as you hold Australia? If so would you support Australia banning the public exercise of the Islamic reason and knocking down all mosques, the way that Saudi Arabia bans the practice of any other religion? If not, what have you done about the KSA’s policies? How is it okay in one country, but not the other?

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